I purchased the Patriot in 410/45 Colt and just shot it for the first time. The guns recoil being very manageable. I used 250 grain 45 colt ammo, Hornady Critical defense in 410 and Federal Triple 000 Buck which had the most kick but still fine for a defensive load. I look forward to more shooting fun ahead. No issues with the gun at all. I'm happy! I will get a thick oval plate for hanging to practice my draw and shooting accuracy.