I fired my new Cowboy Defender with both 410 and long Colt 45 rounds last weekend. My target was a torso sized cardboard box I placed on a 1″ pvc pipe. My first shot with the 45 round at 30 yards was pretty much in the center of the box and completely destroyed the pvc pipe inside. I was impressed. I was also pleased that the recoil was far less than I had expected. Love the gun.